Front differential fluid subaru outback 2014. "front differential check plug" in the ATRA presentation, pages 32 and 33 on the bottom of the front differential. 5L automatic transmission front differential oil change? I have 25000 on the Outback, I changed the rear differential oil last week. 2 litres. com/MTcoffeeHow to perform a (Gen 4) 2015 Subaru Forester Differential Fluid Change. The front diff is just an open ring and pinion gear set - nothing limited about it. The T70 Drain Plug is totally seized. Car history: purchased March 2018, 36K miles so far; no towing, limited offroad; probably 50% highway/road trip miles/50% typical Bay Area driving (but no daily rush hour commuting). Part numbers for crush rings and best type of oil to use would be helpful too. I know they recommend 30K but figure it may be wise to get clean fluid to get rid of any metal that may be present. The 2014 is a little different than the 2013. Mar 5, 2017 · Not quite correct. Washer and Fluid: New Black Washer for Drain Plug (Part #803926090) 1. k. 6R. 7 (80K+) Welcome to the Subaru Outback Owners Forum Nov 6, 2023 · I recently purchased a 2014 2. Can someone snap me a shot of the front differential fill location. The rear diff on mine has crush washers for fill and drain, front diff has washer for drain too. 5 Qt, (48 oz ) gear oil Rear Differential (VA1-type): Upper fill AND lower drain plugs: 10mm Hex driver 18x24x1 gaskets on both (Subaru part # 803918060) 36. Grab the socket wrench, undo the 21mm bolt. I replaced with Valvoline synthetic 75-90. Sep 11, 2024 · I state it vague as you can't determine condition of fluid by appearance. Front Differential Fluid Change Tools: 2 ramps, 2 jack stands, floor jack 8mm hex bit (front fill and check plugs) Mar 23, 2015 · guys, as it turns out, neither were the front diff fill plug. Using the "fill hole" as described above will result in the front differential being overfilled. There is a separate, dedicated "overflow drain plug" (FSM, page CVT(TR580)-44 or CVT(TR690)-43) a. It is on the passenger side, fill from under the vehicle. You can generalize though! I later learned the front diff fluid lives a much harsher life in the front than the rear diff. 8 Qt (32 oz) gear oil Front Diff Fluid Change Procedure 1. I doubt that Subaru changed the MT significantly between Gen 3 and Gen 4, but, I would check the capacities before you get Extra-S from the dealer. Nov 9, 2019 · 2010 OB has 104K miles. Mar 18, 2023 · 2014 Forester, 9 1/2 years old, approx. Nov 16, 2023 · I want to do a 30,000 mile differential oil change on my 2020 Outback. Nov 16, 2010 · 2012 Cadillac Escalade :29: 2012 Dodge Ram 2500 HD 2011 Subaru 3. My forester is a CVT Non-turbo Oct 3, 2021 · New differential fluid on the right, front differential top left rear differential bottom left. Jul 11, 2020 · How to replace manual transmission fluid and front differential fluid on a late model Subaru Outback, Subaru Impreza, Subaru Forester. Unfortunately the fill plug is not. I'm due for next fluid change at in 20k miles (200k). . The old fluid was dark brown. This video shows the basic procedure for servicing the front differential for most Subarus, vehicle in video is 2016 Subaru outback. 6 Limited at 175k seeking 250k + I bought my OB new. Perhaps someone could explain how the new CVT and front diff work together. Remove oil drain plug and drain May 12, 2019 · So, it's about time for me to do the front & rear diff fluid drain and fill. 5L 59k miles) three weeks ago using Subaru's CVTF-II. That’s the standard oil capacity that Subaru recommends using in their cars. A Cvt Subaru is a different story, while the differential uses gear oil the transmission uses Cvt transmission fluid. The schedule recommends both fluids be changed earlier under severe driving conditions. I will use the Valvoline again. I think for me and my driving history - 60k was about the right time to change. Nov 13, 2012 · DIY: Gen 4 3. On mine its located right above one of the catalytic converters. This appears to be a legal claim for negligence with the auto shop. Here is a picture of the fill hole for the front diff on the 2014 with CVT. You'd have to call your local dealer. Aug 20, 2018 · So in short, my questions are, for the 2017 3. I have found the drain and check plugs (which are labelled as such). Feb 24, 2019 · The front diff will have a dipstick on the passenger side of the engine bay, towards the back of the firewall. For $3 a washer, it's an insurance policy and probably doesn't need to be changed, but I'd rather not never have to deal with a leak over $3 on a $35,000 car. Jun 12, 2024 · 2017 3. Mobil 1 is fine anywhere else. I can't see where the add plug is for the front differential to add oil. Apr 5, 2023 · 1. Planned "Easy and Straightforward" Fluid change on front differential was a total no-go. It is a 1/4 inch hose that goes up and hooks in a small bracket that curls 180 degrees facing the ground on the open end. 4-1. 8 quarts and the front diff takes about 1. had maybe a quart in it ,the rear had over a qt. 6R 2009 Yamaha V-Star 950 :29: 2009 Dodge Ram 2500 :28: 2005 Yamaha V-Star 650 2002 Chevy Silverado 2500 :29: May 15, 2008 · Just a couple of points. Oct 2, 2020 · Looking for feedback on whether to replace the CVT and front/rear differential fluids for our 2018 OB 2. " As stated earlier, the CVT fluid inspection is only to look for leaks on the outside. Aug 8, 2021 · The service manual (at least the 2019 and other gen5 manuals) had the inspection for the differential fluid as removing the fill plug and inspecting the fluid "Replace the gear oil if it is contaminated, deteriorated or cloudy. ) Aug 3, 2014 · Just changed the diff fluids on my 2011 3. Reactions: oneworld279 and LogicalPosition Jun 27, 2015 · It just needs to be a GL-5 diff oil, synthetic 75W90 or conventional 80W90. Today we'll be changing the front diff fluid on my 2015 Impreza (CVT). However, the number varies based on the model of the car. Just a coating at the moment. 2005 Subaru Outback 2. You'd smell the differential oil in the trans fluid. Did rear and CVT fluid changes earlier today. Oct 13, 2010 · Subaru did replace the entire CVT/front diff with a new unit. The car had ~104,000 miles on it and had previously been serviced at their local Subaru dealer, from what I could tell, the differential fluid and CVT fluid had never been changed, so I made an appointment with my local mechanic to replace the front and rear diff fluid and was planning to Sep 12, 2024 · Front Diff Fluid Change Welcome to the Subaru Outback Owners Forum, we have tons of information about your Subaru Outback, from a Subaru Outback Wiki to customer Apr 22, 2011 · The spec for the rear differential the same; GL-5, 75W-90 or 80W-90. Welcome to the Subaru Outback Owners Forum, we have tons of information about your Subaru Outback, from a Subaru Outback Feb 26, 2020 · There are only 3 things that could happen to that differential fluid. Will probably need to put parts cleaner and then PB Blaster in there to remove debris. If it still has a blueish tint and not so much brown, leave it to 50k. 00 gasket. #2 get estimate of repair replacement diff and cvt Jun 15, 2022 · Pull the fill plug partially away from the case, some oul will run out, and if the oil is brownish in color, change it. From my novice eyes, it looks like it's coming down from the 1/4" gap between the front. The seal between the differential and transmission sections went out and fluid migrated over to the other. Oct 27, 2008 · Crawl under the car, behind the engine oil pan and in front of the transmission oil pan there is the differential. 8qt and filled ~5. DO NOT USE MOBIL 1 SYNTHETIC gear oil in these transmissions. It leaked out to the ground, you'd see the stinky mess. 5 I looked at the front differential today and found a 70mm torx labeled "Diff" and a 8mm hex thats labeled "Check". Doing this first will allow oil to drain quickly. Front Differential Fluid Change Tools: 2 ramps, 2 jack stands, floor jack; 8mm hex bit (front fill and check plugs) Nov 22, 2015 · The below is taken from the USDM Legacy & Outback Owner’s Handbook. 30k miles is the best interval for diffs. 5 qts. Almost any quality regular non-synthetic petroleum gear oil meeting these specs can be used in both the rear differential and transmission. Went well with no issues thanks for forum, YouTube, Shop Manuals, Etc. Jan 25, 2015 · FRONT DIFFERENTIAL 1. Both are GL-5. buymeacoffee. 5 quart (48 oz) 75w90 GL-5 Gear Oil Apr 1, 2017 · Subaru's approach to identification and differentiation in the FSMs has long been an issue -- to wit, in earlier models all too similar if not identical drain plugs for the engine and automatic transmissions, and confusion between the front differential oil dipstick and the AT fluid dipstick. 6R Front Differential Oil Change Changed my Front Differential fluid at 35K yesterday and decided to post this simple DIY fluid change and washer replacement. Jan 12, 2019 · The rear diff takes about 0. This video highlights using the check plug valve to fill the differential and bypassin Apr 26, 2021 · (suck out the oil and fill to the hole) There is nothing 'new' with this differential. 5 qt and the rear 0. and the crossmember. ) Nov 19, 2005 · Today I changed out both front and rear gear oil For the front I took a 1/2 gallon plastic milk container and cut a section of the bottom, along two sides to get it over the exhaust and under the Bolt. Nov 24, 2012 · I have a 2013 2. I bought this car brand new and it is the first time any of these fluids have been changed. GL5 is synthetic oil. 00), install fill plug with new $2. Sep 25, 2023 · Or any repair shop or other could do the same for less money. Many stay with a 30k diff fluid interval. Sep 13, 2013 · The service information I have states 75-90 GL5 for a manual trans and typically it is the same for the differentials. (110K+), 2014 Acura MDX (140K+), 2005 Porsche Boxster 2. My wife and I are the original owners - I know it is factory sealed and has May 13, 2007 · Does anyone have photos of a 2012 Outback 2. The consensus seems to be that 75w90 is fine up front, even though it is listed as an alternative. Figure $200, to lift the car up, remove the fill plug, remove the drain plug, after fluid drains out, install drain plug, fill diff with fluid, ($20. 9 ft-lb torque 0. Jul 30, 2018 · I performed the first CVT drain/fill (Outback 2014 2. The front diff. The diff oil is identically checked, but you are looking for non-transparency of the oil as an indicator. Jan 26, 2021 · Only use Subaru CVT fluid and diff fluid, especially under warranty. Jul 17, 2013 · The front diff. This is located up on the passenger side of the front differential, approximately 1 foot up into the engine bay. oil looked really good ,the rear diff. 3 US quarts or 1. 6R outback, what is the size of the rear differential plugs and where are the plugs to drain and fill the front differential. My son's 10 Impreza(auto) has a seperate dip stick to check the diff fluid. I suspect it has some moly in it. Remove front differential vent cap, which doubles as the fill hole (just pull off the vent hose and remove the plug). The rear differential looks like a no brainer but I'd like to see a good video and get instructions on changing the front differential. I know mine doesn't sell any fluids because they buy in bulk drums. The OEM fluid comes out pearlescent greyish black. 2. I put in almost 1. You can also reach this from under the hood. Subaru Front Differential Fluid Capacity. The basics are, there's 3 plugs: 1) Drain, 2) Check (level) and 3) Fill. For the Subaru differential fluid capacity, it’s better to go with something around 1. I have tried to research, and although I have seen some excellent write ups, I am not sure where the fill plug is on the front diff on my car. In the MT cars, the center diff and transmission share the same fluid (80w90 gear oil), in the AT cars, the AT uses ATF and the center diff uses 80w90 gear oil. 5i with 6 MT and was wondering if I should change the front and rear diff fluid with my first oil change at 3750 miles. into the rear diff. Subaru Outback Forums 2010-2014 Gen 6: 2020 Aug 3, 2014 · I purchased my H6 roughly one year ago. Mar 30, 2024 · I am a little confused how to change the front diff fluid on my 2014 Outback 2. oil was very dark. I did have front diff washers on hand, but the guide posted above didn't mention the washers for the rear, so I didn't know about them till I saw them, then confirmed in the service manual. It should also be fairly obvious where the differential casting bolts up to the xMission casting. (8 mm Hex driver) 2. 5 liters while the rear differential is only 0. There is a split-line between the two castings. Save Share Feb 16, 2020 · Hello folks - doing front and rear oil changes today and need some advice. A bit of oil resistant thread sealer could be used, but many don't use anything without any seepage. Oil pan and valve covers are dry. Not dripping just yet. It had its first ATF change at 74,000 miles, but the front and rear differential fluids have never been drained and filled. Jun 16, 2019 · 2015 Outback - Front Differential Fluid Change. Etc. Feb 15, 2020 · Buy me a coffee| https://www. Jan 31, 2016 · Here are pics of the front differential fill port and what the hose looks like so you know you get it right on a 2013-2014 Outback. Jul 14, 2020 · This may be a dumb question, but I'm looking at the mainentance schedule for my 2016 Outback 2. A guy has a nice tutorial on a 2011, but his pics are a little different from my 2013 Subaru Outback (wires and components slightly different). Both plugs on the bottom of the differential are CLEARLY labelled in English embossed right in the casting. In the SM I have, it only states quantity for the front diff at 1. 75,000 miles, no severe driving Front and read differential oil question: Forester maintenance manual indicates the 2 differentials should be periodically inspected and oil replaced only if the car has experienced severe driving. 5 limited, and at 60k miles it says "Inspection Differential Fluid (front and rear gear oil)". Sep 10, 2013 · 2008 says that the capacity of front differential (with transmission) is 3. May 22, 2016 · The fluid in the MT's isn't used by the limited slip. Front Diff: • Subaru Extra MT (The vehicle is filled at the factory with this type of manual transmission oil/front differential gear oil). 5 quarts. At 60k miles, it also says "Inspect CVT transmission oil". Used penetrating oil and no luck. Front diff has a lot going on compared to the rear and visually it shows in the old fluid. (The manual front diff is lubricated with the same oil as the gearbox and holds 3. • API classification GL-5 (75W-90) (You may use this type of manual transmission oil/front differential gear oil. I see oil on the crossmember, just in front of the front diff. 1. The service manual states 80W-90 in the front differential, but 75W-90 in the rear. Mar 5, 2021 · Pinions. The VLSD center diff in the transmissions are sealed units internally and fluid can not be changed/accessed. 8 qts. 75w-90 gear oil is recommended with GL-5 Apr 22, 2020 · When you change a manual transmission Subaru’s differential you actually change one fluid that lubricates both. This was at an independent shop in Iowa. Where the heck is the fluid fill hole for the front diff? The drain hole and set-level hole are easy to find (and actually labeled as such by their respective holes. Feb 5, 2017 · Oil: I used Mobil1 75w90 front and rear. I attempted to remove the front differential Torx T70 drain plug and the rear differential 10mm fill plug yesterday and they are not moving. 5 as I read many horror DIY fails in doing this. 5L TURBO 5AT XT Limited. If for Aug 16, 2016 · The below is taken from the USDM Legacy & Outback Owner’s Handbook. Mar 31, 2024 · I did a ton of research before changing the front diff fluid on my 2014 Outback Premier 2. Jan 6, 2022 · Changing Front Differential Fluid, 5EAT. The differential was never filled after a service Dec 24, 2012 · Front diff fluid has always looked and smelled fine, has even been changed on occasion. 5L Limited. The owner's manual calls for 80W-90 in both the front and rear differential. Your probably going to have to: #1 document, photos/videos of the diff and cvt fluid levels and conditions. Looks to me that Subaru won’t warranty this. Jan 16, 2023 · Not enough to drip way down to the bottom. I saved on this info in a file (that also has rear diff change) and is attached. diff. The rear diff is pretty self-explanatory, but the front diff is another story. 5qt. Feel free to talk to me like a child or with pictures as I honestly feel like an idiot asking these questions. Which should I go with? Jan 10, 2023 · I don't know anything specific about Subaru front differentials but after reading this forum for the past 3 years it does seem normal that the front differential fluid looks "used" and the rear is "almost new" - not sure if there's anything Subaru specific about it, but the AWD system does have a front axle bias, and in a turn the front wheels have more of a speed differential than the rears. Word of caution for anyone who's going to do the front differential drain/fill, make sure you add new gear oil to the front differential and NOT the CVT. a. 3. You need transmission fluid, front differential fluid, and rear differential fluid, as per the owner Mar 24, 2023 · Personally I change the washers on the drain plugs, but not the filler or check plugs (unless the rubber layer on the metal looks damaged). I drained/filled front & rear diffs at 25k and then at 100k. Apr 25, 2023 · I was quoted $164 for each diff ($100 for labor and $64 for fluid) and $152 for brake fluid exchange ($114 labor, $43 for fluid). Drained ~5. 8 liters. From what I read on here the front diff has a fill, drain and Aug 1, 2012 · It could risk cracking the aluminum rear cover, and isn't necessary -- the pipe threads will tend to self seal. There's no such thing as magic goo in a bottle, but sometimes the right stuff can stretch it out. Jan 26, 2016 · Changing front differential fluid on a 2013 Subaru Outback with CVT transmission. But I know there's no dip-stick for the CVT transmission or front differential. With the top of the container opened to guide the fluid into my oil bucket both the car and I stayed pretty oil free. 5 qts of Lucas brand synthetic 75-90 into the front and almost a qt. Feb 15, 2020 · I am getting ready to change the gear oil in both the front and rear differentials of a 2003 Baja with an automatic transmission. 5 outback from my parents. There is a thread debating what fluid should be used for the front diff. Subaru CVT Fluid Case Study | 30,000 Miles I remember back in 2010 when Subaru started using the 1st Generation CVT in the Legacy and Outback. The front diff plug had a lot more metal shavings on it though. well not without diasassmbling the rear extension housing, removing the VLSD, drilling holes into your VLSD, changing fluid, and welding it shut again. Oct 23, 2012 · Front diff: 30-60K Rear diff: initial at 3K then every 30-60K thereafter* Having changed enough rear diff fluids in our Subaru family, the rear diff fluid is usually quite dark with a LOT of metal after the initial breakin in my experience. Jan 17, 2017 · The rear diff fluid was blacker than the front (the front fluid actually looked pretty good - ie closer to honey color). The additives Mobil uses wreck havoc on the internals. I would recommend the first diff drain and fill at 30k miles. Most gear oil comes in quart bottles that aren't easy to use to fill the differential through the upper opening. I found a write up of a 2015 Forester, that was what the 2014 is like. Remove filler plug on passenger side to rear of CVT boot. kyjlzmzgtomhbuomonjvhhsklzvcnajwnwxjmfaellmtgmftqztbktaqliv
